Difficulty - Guild Wars Forums

lipstreur · Jan 06, 2009, 03:44 PM // 15:44

Anyone besides me find more and more quests impossible to complete? "A Gate Too Far"- can't reach the asura gate to destroy it because you and your party are sacrificially slaughtered before you get to it?

"Band of Brothers" - pretty much the same issue. resurrected and dead, over and over and over and over again.

I got a friend who sent me a screen shot showing that when she's resurrected she has only one point of health. I'm not kidding, ONE point of health.

I've had to abandon all the main quests because they are simply too hard to do. My heros are all level 20 and have the best weapons and armor. They even have bonuses to their damage and armor. However, it's all for not. I thought games were supposed to be enjoyable not tolerated or even stressing.

moriz · Jan 06, 2009, 03:48 PM // 15:48

um.... play better? stop using multiple superior attribute runes? my poorly equipped mesmer and even more poorly equipped hero/hench team can plow through pretty much all of EotN with ease.

you have a PEBKAC error.

Yang Whirlwind · Jan 06, 2009, 03:54 PM // 15:54

I can, as always, recommend the Wiki walk-throughs.
The quest did not seem that difficult to me when I did it.
Setting up your party to deal specifically with the Destroyers will help you. For example fire is bad against them.

tmakinen · Jan 06, 2009, 04:08 PM // 16:08

It sounds like there are some pretty fundamental issues, since as a rule of thumb you can take seven henchmen and beat the game without equipping a single skill, just C-spacing around the place while henches do the work for you. Without seeing your equipment, builds and tactics I can't say for certain what's wrong but 1 HP when resurrected indicates that you have used major and superior runes willy-nilly, and that is already a huge issue. Never apply majors or superiors if you don't know exactly what you're doing. Also, while heroes can be much better than henchmen it doesn't just happen unless you have played the respective profession long enough to have unlocked most of the skills and acquired enough knowledge of them to create an effective build. A badly built hero is worse than a hench.

crazybanshee · Jan 06, 2009, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Yeah, I don't recall these missions being THAT hard, and I filled up multiple hard mode handbooks to max my rep titles. My heroes don't even have any runes or mods on their armor or weapons at all. I think you should re-evaluate your builds, and as the other users said take off any major or superior runes (except the vigor ones) There is almost no need to use major or superior runes. The only times it's good to have 1 hp is when you're a bip O.o

Slash From The Shadows · Jan 06, 2009, 06:58 PM // 18:58

um.....unlike most ppl think, it can be REALY hard beating those missions sometimes. same happaned with my sin, because i was melee, it was harder to pull, and i barely finished the mission with 60% dp and after 10 tries, but on my ele, which is caster, i finished it on my first try without dying once. conclusion : casters are easier to play in missions, or if you wanna play melee, get good heros. small tip : if you have high dp at the end,, pull the effigis or w/e they are called, away, then go straight to the boss, effigis will sta at where you pulled them to and then got killed.

Tharg · Jan 06, 2009, 07:00 PM // 19:00

whisper me in-game and we can do these missions together. I can also check your and your heroes' builds.

IGN Tharg Of Delff

caballo_oscuro · Jan 06, 2009, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Yeah as was already said, sounds like you're using builds you're not familiar with and applying runes and insignias which aren't suitable.

The game isn't so easy that you can load 8 skills on your bar, and 8 on each of your heroes, it takes a little bit of thought. GW and similar games are not merely about pointing, clicking and winning.

Now I would suggest letting us know what heroes/henches you are using for these sections of the game as I have builds that can walk each of these no worries, as I'm sure others have.

Try changing your tactics frequently, you need to know what works in different places, for instance sometimes holy damage will work, sometimes fire, sometimes a mesmer with a particular build won't be a good option.

You may also like to try wiki.guildwars.com, http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page and www.pvxwiki.com for some help if you can't figure it out, ask someone but these are some of the best resources.

Also try searching the forums here because some folks on here know far better ways of doing these things than I do, and I can walk the sections you're having trouble with. Good luck, see you in game.

GWEXTREEMFAN · Jan 06, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

you have a PEBKAC error.

lol how very nice xD but true

how it was said before maybe change build and watch what you're doin ^^

Zebideedee · Jan 08, 2009, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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I got a friend who sent me a screen shot showing that when she's resurrected she has only one point of health. I'm not kidding, ONE point of health

Isn't that what happens when you die using the 55 build? Thats her choice, not the games fault, she made her build, she can lie in it lol

Teutonic Paladin · Jan 08, 2009, 02:22 PM // 14:22

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Originally Posted by Slash From The Shadows

um.....unlike most ppl think, it can be REALY hard beating those missions sometimes. same happaned with my sin, because i was melee, it was harder to pull, and i barely finished the mission with 60% dp and after 10 tries, but on my ele, which is caster, i finished it on my first try without dying once. conclusion : casters are easier to play in missions, or if you wanna play melee, get good heros. small tip : if you have high dp at the end,, pull the effigis or w/e they are called, away, then go straight to the boss, effigis will sta at where you pulled them to and then got killed.

The mission isn't really hard, you just don't know what you're doing. Use a bow to pull, don't just charge in.

imnotyourmother · Jan 08, 2009, 02:29 PM // 14:29

the easiest way to complete this or any other mission is this....

PAYING FOR MISSION 5K for ALL who JOIN. You will find that you will complete the mission in no time flat.

Jan 06, 2009, 03:44 PM // 15:44	#1
lipstreur Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2008 Profession: R/	Difficulty Anyone besides me find more and more quests impossible to complete? "A Gate Too Far"- can't reach the asura gate to destroy it because you and your party are sacrificially slaughtered before you get to it? "Band of Brothers" - pretty much the same issue. resurrected and dead, over and over and over and over again. I got a friend who sent me a screen shot showing that when she's resurrected she has only one point of health. I'm not kidding, ONE point of health. I've had to abandon all the main quests because they are simply too hard to do. My heros are all level 20 and have the best weapons and armor. They even have bonuses to their damage and armor. However, it's all for not. I thought games were supposed to be enjoyable not tolerated or even stressing.

Jan 06, 2009, 03:48 PM // 15:48	#2
moriz ??ber t??k-n??sh'??n Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Profession: R/	um.... play better? stop using multiple superior attribute runes? my poorly equipped mesmer and even more poorly equipped hero/hench team can plow through pretty much all of EotN with ease. you have a PEBKAC error.

Jan 06, 2009, 03:54 PM // 15:54	#3
Yang Whirlwind ~ Retired ~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1) Profession: E/	I can, as always, recommend the Wiki walk-throughs. The quest did not seem that difficult to me when I did it. Setting up your party to deal specifically with the Destroyers will help you. For example fire is bad against them.

Jan 06, 2009, 04:08 PM // 16:08	#4
tmakinen Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: www.mybearfriend.net Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: E/	It sounds like there are some pretty fundamental issues, since as a rule of thumb you can take seven henchmen and beat the game without equipping a single skill, just C-spacing around the place while henches do the work for you. Without seeing your equipment, builds and tactics I can't say for certain what's wrong but 1 HP when resurrected indicates that you have used major and superior runes willy-nilly, and that is already a huge issue. Never apply majors or superiors if you don't know exactly what you're doing. Also, while heroes can be much better than henchmen it doesn't just happen unless you have played the respective profession long enough to have unlocked most of the skills and acquired enough knowledge of them to create an effective build. A badly built hero is worse than a hench.

Jan 06, 2009, 04:14 PM // 16:14	#5
crazybanshee Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Look out! Profession: E/	Yeah, I don't recall these missions being THAT hard, and I filled up multiple hard mode handbooks to max my rep titles. My heroes don't even have any runes or mods on their armor or weapons at all. I think you should re-evaluate your builds, and as the other users said take off any major or superior runes (except the vigor ones) There is almost no need to use major or superior runes. The only times it's good to have 1 hp is when you're a bip O.o

Jan 06, 2009, 06:58 PM // 18:58	#6
Slash From The Shadows Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: Guardians Of The Shiverpeaks Profession: A/E	um.....unlike most ppl think, it can be REALY hard beating those missions sometimes. same happaned with my sin, because i was melee, it was harder to pull, and i barely finished the mission with 60% dp and after 10 tries, but on my ele, which is caster, i finished it on my first try without dying once. conclusion : casters are easier to play in missions, or if you wanna play melee, get good heros. small tip : if you have high dp at the end,, pull the effigis or w/e they are called, away, then go straight to the boss, effigis will sta at where you pulled them to and then got killed.

Jan 06, 2009, 07:00 PM // 19:00	#7
Tharg Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Massachusetts Guild: Omega Glory Profession: Mo/	whisper me in-game and we can do these missions together. I can also check your and your heroes' builds. IGN Tharg Of Delff

Jan 06, 2009, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#8
caballo_oscuro Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Aura	Yeah as was already said, sounds like you're using builds you're not familiar with and applying runes and insignias which aren't suitable. The game isn't so easy that you can load 8 skills on your bar, and 8 on each of your heroes, it takes a little bit of thought. GW and similar games are not merely about pointing, clicking and winning. Now I would suggest letting us know what heroes/henches you are using for these sections of the game as I have builds that can walk each of these no worries, as I'm sure others have. Try changing your tactics frequently, you need to know what works in different places, for instance sometimes holy damage will work, sometimes fire, sometimes a mesmer with a particular build won't be a good option. You may also like to try wiki.guildwars.com, http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page and www.pvxwiki.com for some help if you can't figure it out, ask someone but these are some of the best resources. Also try searching the forums here because some folks on here know far better ways of doing these things than I do, and I can walk the sections you're having trouble with. Good luck, see you in game.

Jan 08, 2009, 02:29 PM // 14:29	#12
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	the easiest way to complete this or any other mission is this.... PAYING FOR MISSION 5K for ALL who JOIN. You will find that you will complete the mission in no time flat.